Following my last post on what you should be aware of when renovating a bathroom, our learning curve got even steeper. So this is another post to detail what we have learnt after that. The bathrooms were coming together pretty well, the toilet bowls are in and all 3 flush down violently, just the way we like it. A minor hiccup with the sinks though. We bought two full pedestal sinks for the 2nd and 3rd bathrooms because I don’t like the sight of bottle traps.
# – This is a full pedestal sink.
# – This is a sink with no pedestal and hence the bottle trap is visible.
However, as our contractor was about to install them, he realised that in one of the bathrooms, the floor trap was located right beneath where the sink should be and therefore if we insisted on putting in the pedestal, it would obstruct the floor traps. As illustrated below:
# – This is the situation we were facing. Major nono to have the floor trap obstructed.
This is absolutely unacceptable, so in the end we decided to do away with all the pedestals and just use pretty looking bottle traps (so I won’t have one bathroom with pedestal sink and another with none).
That said, it’s still not my most ideal situation as I don’t like seeing bottle traps whether pretty or not, but it’s just something I have to deal with because it cost too much to relocate the floor traps. So if you’re installing sinks, make sure your floor traps are located in the appropriate areas of your bathrooms.
So that little issue out of the picture and we thought everything was fine and dandy again. Till we walked into our bathrooms one day and we were greeted with the sight of this monstrosity:
# – This was OUR stopcock.
The stopcock is a valve that regulates the flow of water in the pipes. You’re probably familiar with its sight, those faucets that stick out of your walls with no apparent use (till you have a leak or something one day, of course).
Like the floor traps, make sure they are positioned in the appropriate areas if you could help it, not near where you might want to put in a cabinet or mirror etc. This was something that we didn’t think of, so now our stopcocks are very visible in the bathrooms. If I had known earlier during the renovation, I would have requested that they be relocated to areas more hidden from view (such as below the sink or a corner).
Anyway, back to the monstrosities. We were shocked by its sheer ugliness. It was big, shiny and made of plastic. All six of them.
I didn’t know how much trouble we were in until I consulted my contractor, whose face promptly turned a darker shade of pale after I had expressed that I could not accept the aesthetics of the stopcock faucets and they must be removed.
As it turned out, stopcock faucets are all different in built from brand to brand. Changing one, even if it’s just the exterior would mean hacking into the walls, cutting the pipes and replacing it. Can you imagine replacing all six of them? I can totally relate to his anxiety.
Anyway, we decided to take a sample of our current stopcock faucets to our regular kitchen & bath shop. According to the salesperson, there is a chance that the exterior of one brand might fit another and we may not have to resort to hacking the walls. With our fingers crossed, she cross checked multiple brands with our existing one, and finally, she FOUND A BRAND THAT FIT! And the best thing of all, it’s the exact design that we were hoping for.
# – Monstrosity on the left and the new stopcock on the right.
So yeah, we are pretty lucky in that sense. No hacking, no cutting pipes, just unscrewing the exterior and screwing the new ones in. So if you’re ever re-doing your bathrooms, please, please, please remind your contractor that you want a specific design for your stopcock faucets (unless you don’t give a damn, of course).
Seriously hoping I won’t need to write a 3rd post on bathroom! /cross fingers.
Happy renovating :)
then what happened to your pedestals?
suanie: my contractor said he’ll buy them from me. even if he didn’t though, they don’t cost that much. Ours is Orin and is priced about RM120 each.
yeah hopefully everything done properly, all those little things you never find out until actually be in the whole renovation nonsense, pening wan
Yah damn lucky, gonna cry if they have to hack all the tiles out to replace the stopcocks :(
You could put in like a half counter thingy for your sink, to hide the bottle trap (i hate looking at them too), like how they do it in shopping mall or hotel toilets. Thanks for the renovation post tho, quite informative
ky: yeah, that’s why i wanna share this, coz i didn’t find information like this online.
st: thankfully we don’t have to do that
steph: ya, that was my initial plan but the sinks we bought do not fit with any half pedestals so cannot also :(
Eh you’re lucky you have individual stop cocks.
Fucker DPC developer… there’s only 2 mofo stop cocks in this house.
1st one is for the mains, 2nd one is for the washing machine. Lazy fuckers…had a free shower when I was changing my leaky tap the other day.
yeehou: but i’d trade your lake and park for 6 stop cocks hehehe
Might I ask what make are the replacement ‘stopcocks’ ? I am having an identical issue as you.
kong: they are Arino brand. mine are 3/4″ but i bought the 1/2″ as the exterior fits too. it’s better to bring the original stop cock cartridge to the shop so you can really check if the new ones would fit. good luck!
much appreciated
I couldn’t believe my eyes when I read this entry, Kimberly. My husband and I are renovating a house we bought and we too have been agonising about those ugly “DOE” stopcocks “gracing” our bathroom walls. When we told our contractor to please get us decent-looking stopcocks, he insisted that the “Doe” brand was the most reliable in the market. Unlike you we took the word of our contractor for what it was. I am definitely going to check to see if we can keep the interior pipes (the work’s been done) but replace the Doe cocks with something more pretty and upbeat, like your Arino brand ones. Can you tell me where you went and how much each cost? It’s rare to find sales staff who will go through so much trouble. Really appreciate it! And good luck with the renovations!
kong:no problem!
pat: Hiya, I can totally understand your feelings. All our taps, sanitaryware, sinks, floor traps etc were bought from this shop called Xam-max in Damansara Uptown. It’s just right next to Old Town White Coffee. I really like their service, particular Ms. Frances and Ms. Daisy, who are experienced and well-versed with their products. The original price of our stop cock is RM80 each but you can get discounts when you buy more.
BTW Xam-Max website is here – https://www.xammax.com.my/
We’ve had a really good experience with their knowledgeable and helpful staff.
Hi Kimberley and Shaolin Tiger, thank you so much for responding. I will definitely check out the shop. Thanks also, Kimberley, for commiserating. I suppose until you renovate your own place, all the stresses and anxieties will merely be academic. Rest assured you’re doing a good job with the blog.
Phew! I can’t wait to see the last of my contractor!
Hi Kimberly, I like your brown colour sink, may I know where did you buy it?
Hi,
I chanced upon your blog when I wanted to search for stopcock. I agree that the DOE stopcock looks terrible. Can you please share where did you get the cover replacement and how much was it?
Keep the blog going – it’s great!
Thanks so much!
got mine from Xammax in Damansara Uptown, I don’t remember how much we paid but it was probably under RM100 each. cheers